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Meeting Jesus in Mandatory Quarantine: A Conversation with Harvest (Part 2)
 
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Jon Steele  0:09  
Hey everyone. I'm Jon Steele. And this is After IV: a podcast for InterVarsity alumni. Life after college is hard. And even a great experience with your University chapter doesn't shield you from the challenges of transition. As we hear stories from real alumni learning how to make it in their post-InterVarsity reality, my hope is that this podcast will offer some encouragement, a few laughs and even some hope for the future. This is After IV, and these are your stories.

Welcome

What's up, welcome back. We've had a few weeks off, but here we are, again with more After IV the podcast for InterVarsity alumni. I'm your host, Jon Steele. And it's great to be together again, or together for the first time if you're making your After IV listening debut right now and if that's the case, welcome. I'm so excited that you're here. I hope you'll look us up on Instagram, drop me a line say hello, I would love to meet you. So let's get started with our new episode here. We're jumping into the familiar and the brand new all at the same time. Today. We're rejoined by a friend who's been on the podcast before but we're hearing the next part of her story. You might remember back in January we met “Harvest” and InterVarsity alumna who's been a missionary in China for 15 years. We got to hear about her Urbana 22 experience in December and then got to hear all about her journey to China a desire that God laid on her heart at a young age, but then asked her to wait 10 years before seeing fulfilled if you haven't already listened to go back and check out our season three premiere, where we first meet, “Harvest” and then listen to our first full episode devoted to her story called how I got to China a conversation with “Harvest”, you can find links to both of those in the show notes that will get you up to speed. And then for today, you get to hear the next part of “Harvest” story where we dig into some of her COVID experiences while in China, we find out what it was like for a missionary in China to keep sharing the gospel while in lockdown. And “Harvest” also shares her experience being sent into mandatory quarantine along with everyone else in her huge apartment building and how she met God in the unknown where she had no control over her surroundings. There's something for each of us to learn here she shares about her posture toward God and others during this crazy time. It's a fantastic story. So if you haven't heard from “Harvest” before, pause right now and go catch those other episodes first, then come right back here for the next part of her story. All right, here's “Harvest”. This one's for you alumni. 

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Interview

Jon Steele
Okay, so you talked about how COVID that that time sort of amped up some of these restrictions or made it a little more challenging. You had to sort of freestyle a little bit of how you're going to keep doing this. Yeah, there was also like new ministry that came out of COVID. Tell us briefly about that. Because I think I think we're gonna have a longer conversation about that a little bit later.

“Harvest”  2:57  
Well, you know, I hope everybody's got their own awesome COVID story. Okay, so I hope everybody's got something that they're going to tell their grandkids like, yeah, back when COVID hit my grandma, you know. So our COVID story was I felt from the Lord at the beginning of 2021 of the things a vision for me for the year was to feed the sheep. And I had been the couple years previous I had spent more and more time writing, and was kind of going in that direction of preparing in creating resources for our friends that were bilingual in English and Chinese. Basically, what happened was when COVID came to us, it was extremely abrupt, right, it was like the first place on the world literally, that COVID erupted. We didn't even have that name for it, we just it was a virus. At Chinese New Year time, we were gonna have a party at my place. And a friend messaged me and said, You know, I'm really sorry, but I don't think I'm going to come to the party because there's this virus and I was like, what, like, this is the best party of the year, you're, you're not gonna come to a Chinese New Year party because of a some virus. And then I was like, okay, whatever. And then the next day, another friend messaged and was like, I don't think I'm gonna come with my family because of this virus. And then I was like, what's going on? And so then I start asking questions, and that Thursday night, we had our fellowship meeting, it was smaller number anyway, because people had started to travel for Chinese New Year to return to their hometowns, which was really standard for us. And so it was a smaller group. And I was actually planning a trip for Chinese New Year to travel to Inner Mongolia with some friends. And we all kind of looked at each other. And I was like, wow, should we postpone our Chinese New Year party for the end of the holiday? Because it's like a several week holiday. And we can do it later. And everybody kind of decided, yeah, and then my friends and I were like, should we cancel our trip to Inner Mongolia was kind of like, who does this for a virus, you know? Yeah. And that was Thursday night. So we canceled the things from Thursday to Friday, Saturday, Sunday, everything was shut down in our city. 100% We were at home Four days later, I was at home alone in my apartment, no cars on the street, no meetings, everybody immediately at home. But at that time, I had some really good friends that are Chinese friends who were visiting our city for the holiday. And they couldn't fly back to the city they were living in because of everything was shut down. So they moved in with me. And so now I had my two good friends and their baby and my house. And we were together, but still kind of, you know, locked inside. And I still had this burden to feed the sheep. And so because they were with me, I started writing these little messages to encourage our our brothers and sisters and my friends could translate them. And we started making these voice messages in English and in Chinese to just literally send out one by one to our friends. And after doing that for three days and looking out my window at the empty streets. You know, at the time there was zero cars on the streets, but the streets did have all these guys driving motorbikes delivering food. It was funny, when COVID started and my friends overseas started messaging me the first thing they wanted to know was Where are you getting food? And I was like, Hey, this is no problem. This is this is China, we have the most amazing delivery service. And Chinese takeout is a thing. That's awesome. Let's city is like the only people on the streets are like guys driving their motorbikes around delivering the takeout food. And in Chinese the word for takeout is why my. And so these guys were delivering Wi Fi all over the city to everybody who was stuck at home. And I looked out my window at these guys on their motorbikes. And I thought, I'm delivering spiritual, why am I with these messages. And so out of that, what happened was, my friends and I were able, within a very short amount of time to open up a podcast slash blog, in the Chinese Super App called WeChat that reaches all of our country, we were able to within days open up this channel to broadcast these spiritual messages that were really from the Word of God about Christ and His hope for us at this moment. And so we call that spiritual Limei. And the first article that we posted, so it was like, it's like a podcast was an article in this bilingual. The first article we posted have had 1200 reads, wow, yeah. And it was like, Whoa, that's crazy. Okay, it people are hungry at this moment. And it was a crisis moment, right? Nobody knew what was going on. And so the Holy Spirit just opened up this totally new venue. And we got a team of people that work together as translators, as editors, as photographers, as designers. And the awesome thing was like, our fellowship, everybody was like stuck at home, right. But God gave us an opportunity to continue to serve together. And I really believe it's because for years and years and years, we had been serving together Yeah, as the body of Christ, having our parties doing our outreaches having our Bible studies, like we had been functioning as a unit in the Lord for years. And so when this thing all of a sudden popped up, we were ready to roll, right? You know, and my friends, I live in the high tech part of China. So these guys are really good at this kind of, like editing and designing and like cutting edge design for you know, social media, all this kind of stuff. This was like in their wheelhouse. And so, we were able to throw this thing together. And to this day, we're coming up on our third year anniversary, we publish every single day.

Jon Steele  8:18  
Oh, my goodness, yeah, that's crazy.

“Harvest”  8:21  
We know, it was straight up from the Lord, that He would give us this thing. And again, it's not like, I'm like dreaming, like, “Someday, I'm gonna be like Jon.”

Jon Steele  8:33  
(Laughs) Nobody's dreaming about that.

“Harvest”  8:35  
But it was it was like this is this, you know, I had in my heart, feed the sheep. And at this moment, it's like things, the pieces of the puzzle, were already there. And it was like now boom, go. And the Holy Spirit really gave us a special I would say for a year and a half of real fire to do it. Because we were publishing original content every day for about a year and a half, which is a lot of work, a lot of writing a lot of editing and a lot of recording. But we were doing it like with a fire from the Lord and excitement because this is the moment like this is the time that God has given us an open door and when people are hungry, and are facing this worldwide crisis moment. And can we speak into that words of life? Can we speak into that the true words that are going to lift people up out of this dark moment, it is the word of God. And so we were able to just move in this direction. And we after a year and a half, we kind of like slow things down. So we do a lot of more like republishing of, of content. But we're still allowed to publish which is we're all still kind of shocked that we haven't been shut down. We have to do right now. We have to do a lot of code words and different kinds of unique ways to not get blocked. But yeah, through this moment, God gave us an opportunity to reach people that we never would have reached before. And we only can say it's it's a gift God gave us.

Jon Steele  9:55  
That's amazing. You know, we talked about this grassroots sort of community It's developed, you've had these experiences of kind of pivoting from one place to another, like we've got to, we've got to go here, we got to go there so that we can keep doing what we're doing. And then here, you've had all of this time kind of training together. And you know, growing and trust and growing and a love for like, this is what it looks like, like to live together as God's people. And then this thing happens, and you're ready to go, that when the need came, when the call was put out there, this community, you're ready to produce this thing that that reaches people in serious need, as you're closed up inside, and, and that it's continuing, like that is so cool to me.

“Harvest”  10:39  
We're just… It's like, really just like, This is what God's putting my hand to do today. And you guys come together with me. And I think like with God's leading in with his power, and US and US learning from each other, and leaning on each other, and being kind to each other, like, Okay, you totally we can, we've made so many mistakes, right? Like how many editing ish problems or something is published incorrectly, or this or that, it's like, we don't really care about that. We're just all going to learn this together. And we're going to, you know, this is the Lord's doing, and we're gonna follow him. And whenever he puts in our hand to do we're gonna, we're just gonna keep going together and love each other in it, literally, a bunch of friends that are together, saying, Hey, you guys want to do this? Yeah, let's try. And I think that, that we have the crazy idea that like God has called us, you know, like, like, we were not qualified, because we've got some like degrees or you know, like professional backing, but we're qualified because we are in Christ. He made me and he saved me. And I've been adopted as His child. And now his Spirit lives in me. And within he is living in my friends around us. And so it's His Spirit inside of us and his leading us into this thing. This is why we can say, Sure, let's give it a go like if the Lord is in it, and if he's leading us, and yeah, we make mistakes, I make mistakes. I feel like another key in this is to remain teachable, and listening and listening to each other to have people who are holding me accountable. And listening to the Holy Spirit. You know, I don't want to be that like brazen person, like charge ahead, we're gonna do this thing, because that's actually foolish in my context, because it's, it's too risky, and is maybe riskier for my friends than for me. And so like how I've learned to really kind of listen quietly to the voice of the Good Shepherd and be teachable and flexible, be ready to go like have the zeal to go for it, but at the same time, have a quiet and gentle spirit that says, okay, like, Lord is this the direction that we go? Because I I'm, I think aware that if we step out of his will, and we step out of his plan, it can be a disaster. And so learning more and more or less is, you know, also prayer for this year, like, in last year, and the year before, like, God gave me this quiet and gentle spirit that is listening that's zealous, that's like enthusiastic and optimistic. But at the same time, let's walk circumspectly.

Jon Steele  13:11  
You also, were talking about kind of your COVID experiences, this podcast coming out of this ministry coming out of COVID needs. As you said before, we all have our COVID stories that we can share. And I would imagine, for many of us living here in the US, we've heard versions of the story. We've yes, we've heard a particular narrative of what it was like in China, you know, specifically related to COVID stuff. For someone who's been there who has lived through some of these things. Can you tell us some stories? Maybe that can help give us a more accurate perspective on what that experience was like?

“Harvest”  13:44  
Yeah. Like I said earlier, when COVID came, it was very abrupt. Things stopped like just died. And society was willing to go with that for the sake of safety. And so even though it was hard, we stayed at home, waited, weren't sure what was going on, going on, sat looking out of our windows, and wondering, you know, how long is this going to happen? For the first six, about six weeks in 2020, was when COVID really disrupted China. And for six weeks, we really were at home, we were staying at home, we were working for a home we had in my apartment complex. We had at the front gate, you could get groceries delivered, but we couldn't we wouldn't really go out the front gate. Like I said, I had my friends living with me and we joked that the husband and that he was going to risk his life everyday for us to go out and get our groceries. You know, even in my elevator on the floor of the elevator, they had little boxes of where you're supposed to stand and wow, corners of the elevator. Okay, nobody because nobody really knew what was gonna was going on and what's going to happen and everybody had a lack of a better word healthy fear of, you know, we don't know what's out there. So we're just going to comply and China's very organized and so, our apartment complex system was were so organized of packages coming in and because online shopping and online groceries and all that is really well established in China. So I mean, I was buying groceries online years before COVID. So these kinds of systems are in place. So that was just It could be taken care of, but we just had to wait. And so finally, the hard time kind of passed, and we started coming out of our homes and looking at each other, but still with caution. What continued then for the next two years was periodic lock downs, different levels of monitoring of people. So for the past, you know, nine months in 2022, we were taking COVID tests every single day. And so I had a testing site right in my apartment complex. And I have a health code on my phone that would indicate when was my COVID test if I had been vaccinated. And if I had been to any high risk cities, I had to scan a QR code. Anytime I went in and out of a building, got on a bus got on the subway, and had to show my health code. And so we were tracked and managed contact tracing was in place, we had you know, sections of our city, it periodically would be locked down. If a COVID case would pop up. They would squelch it immediately. So we did not have COVID Like people weren't getting sick. I didn't know anybody that got sick. Nobody was zero in mainland China. Up until this December 2022. I didn't know anyone who had COVID in mainland China. 

Jon Steele  16:23  
Wow! I've known like more people than I can count who have had COVID.

“Harvest”  16:27  
Right? Well, well, China had the zero COVID policy so that they successfully stopped the transfer of COVID as best as they could. But of course, then the difficult side of that is that you've got a lot of restraints on society, or business for life in it affected us in different ways. Some of daily life was hindered, but some of it was not, you know, so there was some days when Oh, we can't go to work this week. Okay, so we figure that out, or, Oh, we probably shouldn't have our fellowship meeting or oh, let's let's cancel that party or stuff like that. The time that it affected me, though, it really affected me one morning in April, I went out to go do some exercising. And it was 10 in the morning. And I saw an ambulance outside my building. And I was like, Oh, what's this, and then one of my guards from my apartment complex who I know, he looked at me and he said, you can't go out you can't go out. And I was like, I wonder what he means. And so I just slipped around the backside of the ambulance and went towards our main gate. And I saw that our main gate had a table across it and a volunteer sitting at the table not allowing people to leave our apartment complex. And so I'm kind of walking around looking and watching and wondering what's happening. And I found one of the our apartment complex managers and I asked her, can I go out? And she said, No, you can't go out right now. But we'll send you a message. And I said, Okay, so I went back up to my apartment, I'm on the 16th floor of my apartment, my buildings about 30 stories, and there's probably 15 buildings like mine in my apartment complex. So you kind of get the size of our place. And I stood on my balcony, I looked out and I saw the medical team starting to come in teams of hazmat suits teams of like blue like hospital garb. And then I saw the truck roll up with these plastic red removable, like fencing that we were all too familiar with. This is the stuff that goes up when they are going to like lock down your building. And I was like, Oh no, this is really bad. And I watched them erect this red plastic barrier wall around my building. And I was like, Oh, this is bad. And now my friends start messaging me saying, What's going on? And I say, I don't know. And they said, we heard that there's one child in your building who tested positive for COVID. And so I waited and I waited and I waited and I was like well, I better clean my apartment and and at 10pm I got a call and was told to pack your bag, you're going to a quarantine hotel. And so I started contacting my friends and asking them to pray for me because I had heard a lot of stories about quarantine. And some of them were pretty difficult. People going to hotels that the room wasn't clean, maybe there was mold and then they started getting sick themselves. So all these kind of different stories about what a quarantine would look like. So I started praying like in my prayer was that God please would you give me a clean hotel room and I would like a window with a view. And so I started packing my the biggest suitcase I had I fill up with food. I didn't even know if I'd be able to get packages and I packed like 15 books, I brought my violin my friends were contacting me and I just asked everyone to pray. And so at midnight, I got a call again. I was told get ready. And then at 3am I got a call it said okay, come downstairs to the buses waiting for you. And at this moment, I have to say my American Flash was not too happy. You know, like nobody's telling me anything. I could feel my flesh inside of me like this. Like, I deserve an explanation like what is that? Like this isn't right you know? So I really had to pray like, Okay, God, there's nothing I can do right now, would you please help me to be the most cheerful person going down right now because my, my neighbors, I've known them for like 11 years, and they know me and this is not the moment to like, crush your witness 3am going to, you know, on this bus, nobody's happy. So it's like, I'm not gonna walk out this building and be like, demanding my rights or something. So I just pray is like, Okay, Lord, help me to be cheerful at 3am with my big suitcase and my violin going to this bus to take me to a COVID hotel. And so I got to the bus and I was kind of like, my neighborhood leader was there and they checked me off a list like, I'm the foreigner here. And so I got on the bus and my name. So my neighbors were on this bus and all very silent. And I could tell everybody was a little scared and anxious. And I went to the front of the bus and sat down, and I called my parents. And I was like, Okay, Dad, you can follow my little blue dot, you know, find my friends. Like it works all over the world. So I was like, Dad, you can follow, you know, track me. I don't know where I'm going. I don't know what's happening. And so we talked, we prayed together. After the phone call, I could kind of hear everybody else on the bus kind of starting to talk to each other. I think they'd heard me talking. And they kind of like, oh, yeah, we're human, we can talk to each other. So this bus took us on, not too long journey. And I prayed. And I decided that I would be the last person to get off the bus. I asked the Lord to pick the room for me. And the hotel room. And I was just going to wait and trust him. But I was also going to start asking questions when I got off the bus. So I waited, I took about 45 minutes to pass everyone off my bus. And then that I got off the bus and the first like hazmat suit person I saw, I said, How long am I going to be here? And he said, Seven to 14 days. Yeah.

Jon Steele  21:52  
(Laughs) Either seven or twice that amount.

““Harvest””  21:57  
Oh, my. And then he said something I didn't understand. And I thought this is not the time to fake that I understand. You're Chinese. You know, this isn't a time just to say yes. And nod my head. So I said, I said, I'm really sorry. I don't understand what you're saying, Can I get your contact information? And he said, Yes. Oh, wow. I then was processed into this hotel. And it looked like a warzone. Like they like imagine a nice hotel lobby with a chandelier. But all the furniture pushed aside and instead it's like hazmat bags. And it just, it was a crazy looking, and all these hazmat suit people, but they're really polite. They're like, here's your card, your key Welcome to our hotel. I was like this is surreal, like Welcome to our hotel, and I rolled my big fat suitcase in and I got on the elevator. And it wasn't until I was in the elevator when I looked up, and I saw that I was in a Hilton Garden Inn. What? Thank you, Jesus. Thank You, Jesus. Thank You, Jesus. Thank you. Wow. And so I went up into my room. And I also told myself and told my parents, I'm not going to cry until I get into my hotel room. Like, I got to do this, right. Like, I gotta get through this. Yes, by now. It's like 430 in the morning, I go into my hotel room. And it's this beautiful Room with floor to ceiling windows. Oh, my gosh, two walls are floor to ceiling windows. And then I cried. I said, Thank You, Jesus, you provide for me everything that I need. And I can I really can trust you in the unknown. And so I stayed there for 14 days before 14. Every day I was there, I was able to communicate with the hotel staff, because I gotten this guy's contact, right. And they were really kind and we made friends and I thought what a job like you get this great job working at Hilton Garden Inn. And now you're a quarantine hotel, you know, like, you're like taking out people's hazmat garbage. And so I tried to be thankful. Like, every day I got food delivered, and I had my temperature taken. I had a COVID desk like every day. And so all these people that are like, quote, unquote, serving us, I would just try to write little notes of things and tell them thank you and reach out to them in the best way I could. And then it was really awesome. They started like sending me little note, the manager sent me up a piece of cake and a cappuccino one day I was like, Oh my gosh, I've made contact. Because I'm in isolation, like I'm in this room all by myself. My friends would come and deliver package to me and they'd stand like on the street down below and I'd like stick my arm out the window and wait. And they would wait. Oh my goodness. But it ended up being a sweet time with the Lord. And there were two songs that the Lord really touched me with. And one was an old hymn I'd never heard before our friends sent it to me it was called beneath the cross of Jesus. And it's just about remaining beneath the cross of Jesus. In one day. I noticed that next to my bed there was a window and the way that the window panes were such that if you looked at the right angle, it looked like an enormous cross. In the window with this windowpane next to my bed, and I was like I am beneath the cross of Jesus. And this happened over Easter. So I celebrated Good Friday and Easter in this room. Wow. And the other song that I would sing was also an old hymn. I've come to the garden alone. And here I am in the Hilton Garden Inn. Yes. And I'm like, wow, I have come to the garden alone. I am straight up alone for 14 days was just the Lord. And it was such a sweet time of being alone with him. You know, it was funny when I got in there. Like one of my friends gave me his password to his Netflix. And I was like, I guess this is when you're supposed to binge watch NetFlix. Yeah, I did not open it once. Wow, just being quiet with the Lord. I mean, I read I mean, I I did like video conference with friends. I even played my violin. And I did some writing, I did reading, I was able to keep up with work, those kinds of things. But it was just this really unique moment where you have to be ensconced with the Lord like I I'm forced literally in praise God, it's a clean room, and I have floor to ceiling windows. And I have a view and I have rest and what a time of life like when when else am I going to have this moment of quiet to be with the Lord, even though people were like sending me messages like we're so sorry that this is happening to you. And we're praying for you? And I was like, oh, man, yeah, pray for me. That's really wonderful. You know, I don't want to say that too much. Because it's this, you know, I guess I only had the Lord and His presence was quite sweet and tangible. When we're restricted in the natural, like, you can't go out. You can't do this. You can't do that. Don't you think that there is a greater freedom in the spirit realm in the supernatural with the Lord like all the natural things in my life were gone. And I'm just held literally held into this one room for my my daily, I did my exercises, but I'm like, pacing back and forth in the room. I'm doing jumping jacks, you know, but you're, I'm just in this space. There's something about being a human having a limitations have put on me in the natural, but then in the supernatural with the Lord, because we're the Spirit of the Lord is there's freedom, right? So there is just such a freedom that is different didn't because my distractions are way lower than normal life, right. And I've got nowhere else to go. But here with him. And I feel like I hope in this whole COVID time, this is something that I walk away with that we walk away with, hey, limitations in the natural and my daily life, it's not as big of a deal as I think they are.

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Wrap up

Jon Steele  27:41  
There's so much that we could pull from this part of my conversation with “Harvest”, but I want to focus in on one part in particular and that's her perspective on these 14 days of quarantine, first of all “Harvest”s posture toward others as she was relocated from her home for two weeks, rather than making demands and pleading a case for her own rights, safety and comfort. She chose meekness, mercy, love, peace, patience, kindness, she reminded herself that her testimony of faith in Jesus was far more important than understanding why this was happening or demanding particular treatment. And remember, she wasn't even the one who had tested positive it was someone else in her building, and she was being sent away from her home healthy. But as a result of her decision to lead with these Christlike qualities, she was able to connect with medical and hotel staff in meaningful and helpful ways. The second part of this quarantine story that stands out to me is “Harvest” posture toward God. In a scary and unknown situation, a situation she'd heard some concerning stories about in the past, she turned to God as her provider and protector. She relied on him in the midst of 14 days of being cut off from the world around her. And in those 14 days, that could have been a long, slow slog of loneliness, she found rest and peace beneath the cross of Jesus, she came to the garden alone and met with Jesus there, and she was refreshed and restored. When we enter the unknown, when we enter a situation where we feel that we might be deprived in some way, we can rest assured that God has more than enough for us and we can find abundance in him. And I imagine that feels very real for at least one part of your post graduation experience. What would it mean for you to carry “Harvest”s? Words with you and say, I come to this garden alone, this new town where I'm so far away from everyone and everything I know, my new grad school cohort, my unfulfilling job, my imperfect church, my deficient social life, my mental health concerns, whatever your experience might be, I come to this garden alone, and I trust that I will meet Jesus here and experience God's abundance and you may still have a slog ahead of you. “Harvest” was in quarantine for 14 days. It didn't get canceled. It didn't get shortened. She was there. The hardship happened and Jesus sat right there with her through all Have it and she experienced His goodness. What a fantastic story “Harvest”. Thank you so much for sharing these moments with us. If you enjoyed “Harvest” story, you're in luck, we still have another touch point with “Harvest” coming up in a couple of months where she shares a few more that could only be God moments from her time in China. So stay tuned. And if you still haven't had a chance to listen to the first parts of my conversation with her, remember that there are links to those episodes in the show notes. And be sure to send us a message on Instagram @afterivpod to give this episode some love. Thanks for tuning in. And I'll see you in the after, Alumni.

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